[NRVR-Members] Switching our "dsitro list" over to a real email-list (listserve)

Chris Maier maier.chris at gmail.com
Sat Nov 1 02:31:21 CDT 2014

Sorry TWeeks, my intention wasn't to make you work this weekend on the
mail list.


On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Thomas Weeks <tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org> wrote:
> Hey all..
> TL;DR:
> I'm changing the nrvr-members at nrvr.org from being a server-side, CC-alias
> distro list, to a legit RFC 2919  complain email list (aka "listserve" around
> VT).  **If you don't know how any of this is significant, don't worry about it.
> Nothing will change ;) No email continuity or message deliverability will be
> impacted.
> Background:
> I originally set up the NRVR email list (nrvr at nrvr.org) and the
> launches/announcement (only) email list (nrvr-launches at nrvr.org) as full blown
> email lists that people can self-sign-up on, and which takes care of itself.
> Here are each of those lists and their related archives:
>         http://nrvr.org/mailman/listinfo/nrvr
>         http://nrvr.org/mailman/listinfo/nrvr-launches
> They're nice in that they take care of themselves, auto-handle spam, non-
> member posting, and address-bounce management... however they don't allow
> large file attachments (pictures) and big giant CC lists or tons of embedded
> HTML content.
> When I created the "members" list, I did so not as a mailman email list, but
> as a distribution list run as a type of "internal CC" alias on my mail server.
> Literally, a big CC alias list that sends the message out to all your inboxes
> (no smarts, auto-sigh-up, bounce management, etc). It was easy for me.. and no
> one complained.
> Problem:
> Since the nrvr-members distro list is dumb.. it can't handle bounces properly
> and some of you may have been getting them from time to time.. and I'm tired
> of manually keeping up with it. Plus, if I want to be able to delegate owner
> ship of these things out to Bob or other folks (like webmasters, etc), then I
> should not be the single point of failure w/some esoteric, server side, root
> managed CC distro list.
> Solution:
> I'm changing nrvr-members to a full blown mailman/RFC compliant email list,
> but with moderated sign-ups so that only valid members who have sent in their
> signed yearly membership form (and dues) will be added.. and both Bob and I
> (or anyone else who wants to help) can.
> Another advantage this will give you geek-types is the ability to filter
> messages on the RFC 2919 defined email header field "List-ID: " field that will
> look something like this:
>         List-Id: <nrvr-members.nrvr.org>
> This should be done this weekend without any interruptions in message
> deliveries. And the subject lines should all start beginning with [nrvr-
> members] or the like.  If interested.. that's how you'll know the change is
> complete.
> If anyone has any questions or concerns, please let me know.
> Tweeks
> Head IT Geek or NRVR.ORG

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